i was justa bout to clear up all the newspaper mess that i have just made and.... might be quite nice to have it around the bottom of the piece when we display it??
also... looking back through the blog at Nie's mock ups! anychance i can see the transfer ones in reality? they looked really interesting!
as i have found out with this piece- the photos often look very different to the actual thing!
Jo :)
why the dada destructionists? Brief explaination- We are a group of art students collaborating to make art (duh...) for one of our many projects this semester. The work we produce will reference the dada movement of art history (1916-22). Sometimes referred to as Anti-Art. Our interest lies within the collage aspects of Dada which we will use this in our work, destroying (hence destructionists) and fusing imagery. Here you will be able to keep up with our progress Jo
Wednesday, 30 March 2011
the next stages...
basically i stencilled over the newspaper and gradually removed as much of the collageing as i could
more came off than i thought would but i think the final effect is quite good-
all the daily stuff people are interested in is stripped back to reveal this truth...
I was also thinking about filming... might be nice to have some close ups of the hands tearing away at strips...
i would have had a go at filming it if i had known my phone actually does video filming aswell as photos... clever me!
I will also have a go at making the stencils the opposite way round sizewise and using different colours like Alice and Bow suggested today!
Jo :)
more came off than i thought would but i think the final effect is quite good-
all the daily stuff people are interested in is stripped back to reveal this truth...
I was also thinking about filming... might be nice to have some close ups of the hands tearing away at strips...
i would have had a go at filming it if i had known my phone actually does video filming aswell as photos... clever me!
I will also have a go at making the stencils the opposite way round sizewise and using different colours like Alice and Bow suggested today!
Jo :)
Funding art groups
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12892473
This is an article looking at art groups that have had there funding taken away
Tuesday, 29 March 2011
The second stage
still the wrong way up, im pretty sure the top is the right....
one day from the evening standard randomly collaged together using mainly photographs with people in and any text or adverts which are attached.
Once its dry, probably thursday or early next week because of the sheer amount of glue on there i will tear off as much as possible. or maybe stencil ontop again first and at different stages
might cut out words too in relation to that scratching thing i found about graffiti earlier
Jo
Wolf Vostell
I was just looking back through posts from the last few weeks that i havent seen yet (particularly Nie's- lots of good artist!)
In Nie's post about this one (Wolf Vostell) I thought the word
In Nie's post about this one (Wolf Vostell) I thought the word
Décollage
was a very interesting term!
Very sorry if someone has written more about it previously but i haven't read all the posts yet...
The idea of taking apart an image, or a group of images which have been layered together to create something new. Obviously this is something we have been thinking about doing with our own collage- tearing into an deconstructing parts.
Since this term is looking at using a found image where the artist is not the one who originally layered the images together, perhaps we should think about creating the layering of images in a mechanical way, not thinking about aethstetics (as the original DADA artists did) but then working back into the layered piece we have created by tearing into it and using that part to work a message into it.... not sure how mush sense that makes yet but ye :p
A more specific idea would be to layer the images over one another, using entire pages or images, perhaps in an order of people , police, government (just realised that i spelt this wrong in my stencil piece grrrr...) or backward or maybe all mixed in together, and then sorting them into the heirachy thing we have going on in the text pieces though decollage and maybe resticking some of the things we tear off, though this may defeat the point and we shouldnt need to if we use enough layers.... COMMENTS????
I've been interested in this for a long time but didnt know this word so thank you Nie! :)
Jo
On Kawara
On the theme of text as a political tool and it's use in fine art...
The piece speaks for itself really... very direct, you know exactly what it's talking about!
The piece speaks for itself really... very direct, you know exactly what it's talking about!
The History of graffiti (according to wiki :)
Basic Definition- lettering or images scratched, scrawled, painted or marked on property/ public marking...
i assume this means property not belonging or with permission of the owner... otherwise surely lots of things we consider art or design would be considered graffiti...
Some people consider man kind's early cave paintings as the earliest form of graffiti because they seem to have been making marks on a surface/wall which doesnt belong to them, without permission of the owner :S not sure about this one....
perhaps this consideration is more to do with the origins of the word!
Graffiti comes from the Italian word graffiato which means scratched
'sgrafitto' is a term used for scratching away one layer of pigment to REVEAL ANOTHER BENEATH- i think this has quite a strong relationship to the idea of COLLAGE and distressed collages, like we are intending to produce!
Modern graffiti-
as old as Ancient Greece!- a red handprint and footprint with numbers, believed to show a brothel is near by
Ancient Rome- phrases of love declarations, poetical rhetoric ect...
Today it is considered to be used for portaying SOCIAL and POLITICAL IDEAS (some evidence of this in Pompeii)
(historical graffiti has also offered and insight into the lives of the people who wrote it- their lives, views and degree of education)
Graffiti is seen to be intertwined with hiphop, lots of styles come from New York Subways... (you know the style, not stenciling so much, but the fat bouncy letters that are impossible to read)
Also associated with anti-establishment punk rock movements in the 70's
Stencils where introduced by BLEK LE RAT in Paris, 1985. I'm not sure his work is particularly relevant but its good and well worth a look! I will post if i find any that are relevant!
stenciling also has basic references to pop art, but i believe they only really stand up depending on the colours used
2001- GRAFFITI BECOMES COMMERCIAL
has been used in advertising by IBM and SONY (psp)
------maybe the use of spray cans is too over done...?------
but is everything in art has already been done, then who's judging??
My Conclusion- It has been show, especially over the weekend by the protests that graffiti is used politically but any imagery we use will appear comercial
if we use a spray can at all it should be black and simply for writing with!
i think the reference to graffiti within collage is quite interesting and the idea of scratching words into other things
Jo :)
i assume this means property not belonging or with permission of the owner... otherwise surely lots of things we consider art or design would be considered graffiti...
Some people consider man kind's early cave paintings as the earliest form of graffiti because they seem to have been making marks on a surface/wall which doesnt belong to them, without permission of the owner :S not sure about this one....
perhaps this consideration is more to do with the origins of the word!
Graffiti comes from the Italian word graffiato which means scratched
'sgrafitto' is a term used for scratching away one layer of pigment to REVEAL ANOTHER BENEATH- i think this has quite a strong relationship to the idea of COLLAGE and distressed collages, like we are intending to produce!
Modern graffiti-
as old as Ancient Greece!- a red handprint and footprint with numbers, believed to show a brothel is near by
Ancient Rome- phrases of love declarations, poetical rhetoric ect...
Today it is considered to be used for portaying SOCIAL and POLITICAL IDEAS (some evidence of this in Pompeii)
(historical graffiti has also offered and insight into the lives of the people who wrote it- their lives, views and degree of education)
Graffiti is seen to be intertwined with hiphop, lots of styles come from New York Subways... (you know the style, not stenciling so much, but the fat bouncy letters that are impossible to read)
Also associated with anti-establishment punk rock movements in the 70's
Stencils where introduced by BLEK LE RAT in Paris, 1985. I'm not sure his work is particularly relevant but its good and well worth a look! I will post if i find any that are relevant!
stenciling also has basic references to pop art, but i believe they only really stand up depending on the colours used
2001- GRAFFITI BECOMES COMMERCIAL
has been used in advertising by IBM and SONY (psp)
------maybe the use of spray cans is too over done...?------
but is everything in art has already been done, then who's judging??
My Conclusion- It has been show, especially over the weekend by the protests that graffiti is used politically but any imagery we use will appear comercial
if we use a spray can at all it should be black and simply for writing with!
i think the reference to graffiti within collage is quite interesting and the idea of scratching words into other things
Jo :)
government police people
Couldn't get it the right way up... oh well, you get the idea
I used a stencil and a sponge... probably will do it with a spray if i remember to bring one from home next week. The spray paint would obviously reference graffiti and vandalism (and the incident of the graffiti in trafalga square this weekend!) but i think the style of lettering also has a reference to official labeling used on construction sites ect... probably more of an American thing that I've seen on films than culturally British though...? i think the spray paint might make it look even more like that...
i thought i would post it now, I'm going to collage over and around it to see if working text into it this way might work. Wish me luck!
I used a stencil and a sponge... probably will do it with a spray if i remember to bring one from home next week. The spray paint would obviously reference graffiti and vandalism (and the incident of the graffiti in trafalga square this weekend!) but i think the style of lettering also has a reference to official labeling used on construction sites ect... probably more of an American thing that I've seen on films than culturally British though...? i think the spray paint might make it look even more like that...
i thought i would post it now, I'm going to collage over and around it to see if working text into it this way might work. Wish me luck!
Jo :)
Wars most unforgivable photograph
One of the most famous photograph's a provisioner getting shot in the streets his face half alive half dead....i don't know why I'm putting this here but its just one of thoughts things that really speak to you about revolutions/wars....and at the moment it seems as if the people are at war with there government
Around noon of February 1, 1968, in the opening days of the communist Tet Offensive, South Vietnamese General Nguyen Ngoc Loan summarily executed a Viet Cong prisoner on the streets of Saigon — and photographer Eddie Adams captured perhaps the war’s most unforgettable image.
http://www.executedtoday.com/tag/battle-of-saigon/
By bodean Pye
Around noon of February 1, 1968, in the opening days of the communist Tet Offensive, South Vietnamese General Nguyen Ngoc Loan summarily executed a Viet Cong prisoner on the streets of Saigon — and photographer Eddie Adams captured perhaps the war’s most unforgettable image.
http://www.executedtoday.com/tag/battle-of-saigon/
By bodean Pye
Mug shots
ryots can end you in jail so here are our mug shots....we are the
DADA DESTRUCTIONISTS!!!
we need Nie's still tho
DADA DESTRUCTIONISTS!!!
Alice Simmonds
Bodean Pye
Jo Ellison
Protests...continued
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12873437
This is a link to the clear-up after the Protests but it has some good imagery of the Protests, including the take over of Fortnum and Mason. As well as the explanation to why the protesters vandalised cash machines and banks.
Alice
Wolf Vostell
October 14th 1932
He began his artistic career as an apprentice lithographer in 1953 and by 1954 he had created his first décollage. His philosophy was built around the idea that destruction is all around us, using the term décollage as a description of the act of tearing down posters and for the use of mobile fragments of reality.
Images
http://janosgatgallery.com/JANOS_GAT_GALLERY/Wolf_Vostell_slideshow.html
Nie
Gwyther Irwin
Born May 7th 1931, Hamshire, England.
Gwyther Irwin was a british abstract artist who lived much of his life in Cornwall.
His most famous works consisted of pictures assembled from newsprint and fragments of advertisements on paper, which he collected from the street. He then worked these up into a collage of fine delicacy and quite subtle shades. In some of his later work he also used string, wood shavings, chalk and paint.
Images
http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ArtistWorks?cgroupid=999999961&artistid=1343&page=1
Nie
Monday, 28 March 2011
Riots...
I quite like these images, I think I protest better but I just wanted to convey my idea of showing us protesting or our reaction on the piece of work (in our run-up to "destroying" it). So I quickly put it together, the two middle ones were from my first idea; the person is the subject so the background is irrelevant. Whereas the first and last are just when I was messing around in photoshop.
Alice
Bruce Conner
November 18th 1933.
American Artist renowned for his work in assemblage, film, drawing, sculpture,painting,collage and photography, among many other disciplines.
Assemblage: an artistic process in which a three dimensional artistic composition is made from putting together found objects.
Connor first attracted attention with his nylon-shrouded- assemblage: complex amalgams of found objects such as women's stockings, bicycle wheels, broken dolls etc, often combined with collage or paint. His work had a surrealist edge to it.
Generally, his works do not have precise meanings, but some of them suggest the discarded beauty of modern America, the deforming impact of society on the individual, violence against women, and consumerism. Social commentary and dissension remained a common theme among his later works.
image:
http://horsesthink.com/?p=652
Nie
Raymond Hains
Born 1926
Raymond Hains was a french artist and abstract photographer who was inspired by surrealism and used mirrors or deformed glass as a way of expressing his surrealist interests in his work.
In 1950 he invented the concept of the 'ultra lettré' and devoted himself to to his lettres éclalées (shattered letters) in this year he also started using collage and found, torn posters from street advertisements to create 'ultra lettrist psychogeographical hypergraphics' with Jacques Villeglé.
The influence of neo dadaism continued to inform his work from this point.
He joined the nouveau realists in 1960 but distanced himself from them only three years later.
Some work:
http://artintelligence.net/review/?p=497Nie
Jacques Villegle
Born in Brittany in 1926.
Jacques Villeglé was a French mixed-media artist and affichiste (literally means poster designer) who is famouse for his alphabets with symbolic letters and his decollage with ripped or lacerated posters.
He builds his posters by layering the pieces of posters on top of one another. the top poster or posters would be torn to reveal the poster or posters underneath.
He devised the technique of making collages from fragments of torn-down posters with his friend and fellow artist Raymond Hains.
When he began to work with Hains, Villeglé began to use collage and ripped or torn posters to create ultra-letters psychogeographical hypergraphics. (although I have to say, I am still none the wiser as to what that actually is!)
images
http://villegle.free.fr/media_livre.swf (probably the best website ever!)
Nie
Robert Rauschenberg
Born: October 22, 1925
Robert Rauschenberg was an American artist who became prominent int he 1950 transition from Abstract impressionism to Pop Art. His approach to his early work in particular could be described as Neo Dada.
Robert Rauschenberg described his work as wanting it to be in the gap between art and life suggesting he questioned the distinction between art objects and everyday objects, similar to Marcel Duchamp , with his works such as 'Fountain'.
In 1962 Rauschenberg began to incorporate found imagery as well as found objects into his work. He transferred photographs onto his canvas via silkscreen printing. This allowed him to address and experiment with the reproducibility of imagery and the way this process flattened the image.
He was cited as an important for-runner of American Pop Art.
Images:
http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ArtistWorks?cgroupid=999999961&artistid=1815&page=1
Nie
Mimmo Rotella
October 7th 1918 -January 8th 2006.
Born Cantazoro, Calabria
Mimmo Rotella was an artist and poet best known for his décollage and psychgeographical, made from advertising posters from the street, which had been torn..
Décollage is the opposite of collage and is the act of ripping, tearing or otherwise destroying the image.
He was associated to the Ultra-letterists a movement developed by Jean- Louis Brau, Gil Wolman and Francis Dunfrene in the 1950's. It was a poetry movement to abolish words in favour of linguistic noise. It was inspired by early Dada.
Mimmo Rotella was also a member of the Nouveau Réalisme a movement founded by Pierre Restany and the painter Yves Klein. Pierre Restany wrote the original manifesto for the group,entitled "Constitutive Declaration of New Realism," in April 1960. Members of Nouveau Réalisme tended to see the world as an image from which they could take parts and incorporate them into their work.
Mimmo Rotella creates his work by gluing parts of advertisements which he had ripped from city walls onto canvas. He also experimented with randomly gluing typographic proofs onto canvases and covering the ripped posters with monochrome sheets of paper and painting straight onto the adverts.
Images:
http://rogallery.com/Rotella_Mimmo/rotellahm.htm
(info from above link)
Nie
Sunday, 27 March 2011
Meeting number 2
I know this should really have been done quite a while ago...but I forgot!
We decided we needed a context to our work and thought along the lines of wars/revolutions, as the Dada's work was based around war.
Current revolutions : Libya
Egypt
Yemen
Bahrain
Iraq/Iran
Afgan
People associated with these issues: George Bush/Obama
Tony Blair
Gaddafi
Hosni Mubarak
The revolutions made us think about how government decisions affect the people of that country and the decisions our government makes and how they affect us. We then decided we would create our work around our feelings of the decisions the co-alition have made, for example Budget cuts. The work would be Anarchistic in it's approach, and we may end up filming/photographing this anarchism.
We decided to do some try outs on a smaller scale (our work will be 'quite big') so we could try different ways or layering/ripping/sticking etc. We would also like to incorporate text into the work, and not just images.
We were advised that we could do our presentation as a performance and are working towards this.
Alice is also reading the society of the sceptical by Guy Debord to see if it can help/influence our work (thank you Alice!)
Nie
Having a little read...
So, I got Guy Debord's The Society of the Spectacle out of the library and its first chapter is entitled 'Separation Perfected', these are parts taken from this chapter.
"2. Images detached from every aspect of life merge into a common stream, and the former unity of life is lost forever. Apprehended in a partial way, reality unfolds in a new generality as a pseudo-world apart, solely as an object of contemplation. The tendency toward the specialisation of images-of-the-world finds its highest expression in the world of the autonomous image, where deceit deceives itself. The spectacle is its generality is a concrete inversion of life, and, as such , the autonomous movement of non life.
3. The spectacle appears at once as society itself, as a part of society and as a means of unification. As part of society, it is that sector where all attention, all consciousness, converges. Being isolated - and precisely for that reason -this sector is the locus of illusion and false consciousness; the unity it imposes is merely the official language of generalised separation.
4. The spectacle is not a collection of images; rather it is a social relationship between people that is mediated by images
5. The spectacle cannot be understood either as a deliberate distortion of the visual world or as a product of the technology of the mass dissemination of images. It is far better viewed as a weltanschauung (: a comprehensive conception or apprehension of the world especially from a specific standpoint) that has been actualised, translated into the material realm - a world view transformed into an objective force."
I like these quotes, especially point 4 maybe we should have a discussion about the idea of a collection of images...
Alice
Friday, 25 March 2011
bodeans try out no.2
i have a hand wrigthen one and ill put it on tomorrow its to late to bother...
i like the police but as a hole this one doesnt work
i think its the goverment...ill try some more but i think that you get the idea....
bodean
i like the police but as a hole this one doesnt work
i think its the goverment...ill try some more but i think that you get the idea....
bodean
Thursday, 24 March 2011
Try-outs
Text beside it reads : Must glue all images
Started with the newspaper transfer (as above) and then ripped up the images of signs and glued, and repeated for police and people, in that order.
First layer: newspaper transfer, second layer : image of signs transferred in same way as text, third layer: transfer of police images (same way), fourth layer :images transfer of people (same way).
Bottom layer is the newspaper, then I layered ripped images of the signs, police in a band and students and then attacked it with a Stanley knife and rubbed it with a wet cloth.
Last one. I wrote what the student signs said first. Then layered the ripped images of the signs, police in a band and students and ripped away.
maybe try when a little wet as too hard to pull of when dry
too easy when really wet.
Started by transferring text, by gluing the page and pressing the newspaper into it and then slowly pulling off.
Then I layered the images of signs and ripped then, and did the same for police and people, in that order
Started with the newspaper transfer (as above) and then ripped up the images of signs and glued, and repeated for police and people, in that order.
First layer: newspaper transfer, second layer : image of signs transferred in same way as text, third layer: transfer of police images (same way), fourth layer :images transfer of people (same way).
Bottom layer is the newspaper, then I layered ripped images of the signs, police in a band and students and then attacked it with a Stanley knife and rubbed it with a wet cloth.
Last one. I wrote what the student signs said first. Then layered the ripped images of the signs, police in a band and students and ripped away.
And for my next trick, I shall look at Mimmo Rotella and see how I can incorporate her work into mine.
Aneira
Sunday, 13 March 2011
Working progress of mock up
This is a mock up i've put together to take in for our tutorial tomorrow, so that we can have a visual to discuss...
Saturday, 12 March 2011
group meet
Okay so we had a group me and we all decided on taking a new on the project, inspired by the anti-political aspect in which Dada was based on,
we want to create a "found object" bored in three layers consisting on : the goverment
the police
the people
in that order or in its aposing order, every layer will be build one on time of the other with rips and teers in it
to see each layer this will include text and photo collarge,
Found off the internet, newspapers, and our own phtography, or people and ryates, we want it to be up to date, so using the goverment in power and recent student ryotes.
we also decided that if the photoshoot was going to take place that we will put an anatictic twist on the piece of us attacking the collarge or just being anakistic.
Girls makes some small collarges of the three and put then together we have to have stuff ready by the week before easter break for the making sessions
ill put more no soon
love bow
we want to create a "found object" bored in three layers consisting on : the goverment
the police
the people
in that order or in its aposing order, every layer will be build one on time of the other with rips and teers in it
to see each layer this will include text and photo collarge,
Found off the internet, newspapers, and our own phtography, or people and ryates, we want it to be up to date, so using the goverment in power and recent student ryotes.
we also decided that if the photoshoot was going to take place that we will put an anatictic twist on the piece of us attacking the collarge or just being anakistic.
Girls makes some small collarges of the three and put then together we have to have stuff ready by the week before easter break for the making sessions
ill put more no soon
love bow
Tuesday, 8 March 2011
In the library
Looking for a book for printing I came across this-
The complete guide to altered imagery
All the examples are very bright but I thOught the techniques might be useful
For glossy photographs
1. Sand paper or and awl (not sure what this is but I imagine some of the knives I have for printing would do the same thing) to scrape away at photographs
Basically you dip the photo in water and then attack it to remove the surface either in large areas with the sandpaper or lines with the awl/sharp pointy thing
2. Using bleach
Removes the cyan layer of colour leaving only magenta and yellow (apparently)
How to- dip the photograph in water, then dip it into 50% bleach/water solution.(or apply with a paintbrush to areas) Rinse with water as soon as the colours start changing.
Wax (or stickers) can be used as a bleach resist. Some of the wax can be rubbed off in a waterbath. Alternatively cover it with paper and iron over it to remove all of it
For uni printers-
If you put clear tape over the image ad ten dissolve the paper in water you will be left with the image on the tape!
Collage techniques
Paper chains
Paint (White emulsion!)
Newspaper
Sewing
Found objects?
This might be useful once we have our photos :)
The complete guide to altered imagery
All the examples are very bright but I thOught the techniques might be useful
For glossy photographs
1. Sand paper or and awl (not sure what this is but I imagine some of the knives I have for printing would do the same thing) to scrape away at photographs
Basically you dip the photo in water and then attack it to remove the surface either in large areas with the sandpaper or lines with the awl/sharp pointy thing
2. Using bleach
Removes the cyan layer of colour leaving only magenta and yellow (apparently)
How to- dip the photograph in water, then dip it into 50% bleach/water solution.(or apply with a paintbrush to areas) Rinse with water as soon as the colours start changing.
Wax (or stickers) can be used as a bleach resist. Some of the wax can be rubbed off in a waterbath. Alternatively cover it with paper and iron over it to remove all of it
For uni printers-
If you put clear tape over the image ad ten dissolve the paper in water you will be left with the image on the tape!
Collage techniques
Paper chains
Paint (White emulsion!)
Newspaper
Sewing
Found objects?
This might be useful once we have our photos :)
Monday, 7 March 2011
Here's the idea
So I was having a little think....
I had this idea that I thought I would get your opinions on...
How's about for the exhibition as its coming up soon we should get massive portraits of the UK political leaders and other people and deface them.
like silly little things; moustaches, glasses.
I'll get some ideas together and put them up on here but I thought I should share the idea before I forget it
Alice
Sunday, 6 March 2011
OMG!!!!!
i was talking to my landlord Greg...and we went to the biggest DADA exhibition in london...and we an original HUGE!!!! brochure from the exhibition in March 23 1978...im bring it into uni and it will be amazing :)
Wednesday, 2 March 2011
Bordom makes the best of things
So i got a magnifying glass today and i wanted a new DP picture that wasnt a drawing for face book....what better then the really cool magnifying glass,......well i was doing my thing...being as sad as i am...and low and behold....what comes out as im about the take the picture is this....i love this and thought it would be perfect for the DADA project......the glass looks like a sort of landscape of some sort or very surrealist which is very very cool...which links back to what jo was saying about also working with surrealisium
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